Saturday, April 27, 2019

IPA consonants and some vowels

I know I'm not learning very fast but I'm learning and reviewing a little bit everyday. At the end of the year I will have learned something rather than nothing. Life is very busy right now.

I think Duolingo is very good for reviewing languages. So far I'm up to 30 days review in French, Spanish, and Polish. In the past I tried learning Norwegian and Chinese using Duolingo but it didn't work so well. I need something more.

Right now I've been using memrise to learn norwegian. So far it's working ok. I like the videos and audio. One of the words I learned today was kjøtt which means meat. Right now it sounds like "shut" to me so immediately I imagined shutting the refrigerator door on a slab of raw beef and the bloody red juices running down the inside and outside of the refrigerator.

The only thing that would make it better would be IPA for the words. Of course I can always look it up in https://en.wiktionary.org/ . The IPA for kjøtt is /çœt/ . I haven't got that far in IPA to know how to pronounce that yet.

Which leads me to learning IPA. I watched two fluent forever videos
which I need to watch again. (I found this link by searching "fluent forever ipa english youtube")

I also listened to several language mastery podcasts, one featuring Claude Cartaginese, https://l2mastery.com/blog/claude-cartaginese/ who has a free PDF about polygot language learners which is pretty interesting. I'm up to page 37 out of 534 pages. It would be nice if the library had this so I could read it on Libby. John Fotheringham and Claude had some suggestions to make learning languages in and out of class rooms better. 

I'm slowly working my way in a relaxed manner through "Norwegian Tutor, Grammar and Vocabulary Book" by Elettra Carbone and Guy Puzey. I just want to get a general idea so I am just reading the rules and sample sentences.

I found a decent workbook for learning IPA but it is probably out of print, "Mastering the International Phonetic Alphabet, Guide and Workbook." by Donald M. Decker, Elbert Covell College, University of the Pacific, A Regents Publication copyright 1970.

So far up to lesson 5 out of 17, I have learned the following.
  • Brackets are used to enclose IPA symbols [ ]
  • Quite a few consonant symbols are pronounced the same as in English
  • Some vowel pairs
I paired up the consonants based on what I remember from Fluent Forever videos. (See IPA chart in link below to tie in the location)
  • [b], [p]; Plosive, Bilabial
  • [d], [t];  Plosive, Alveolar
  • [f], [v];  Fricative, Labiodental
  • [g] as in go, [k]; Plosive, Velar
  • [m] Nasal, Bilabial, 
  • [n]; Nasal Alveolar
  • [s] as in so [z]; Fricative, Alveolar
  • [h], Fricative, glottal
  • [l], Lateral approximant, Alveolar
  • [r], Tap or Flap, Alveolar
  • [w], Voiced labial, velar approximant (found in other symbols on IPA chart)
  • [y] as in you
Here are the vowel pairs so far
  • [i] long e as in sleep, vs. [ɪ] short i as in give,
  • [e] long a as in call    vs. [ɛ] short e as in let
  • [æ] short a as in had   vs. [a] "ah" as in not
  • [ɔ] "aw" as in law       vs. [o] long o as in snow
  • [ʊ] short? us as in full vs. [u] long u? as in fool
Here is a good IPA chart and Keyboard http://westonruter.github.io/ipa-chart/keyboard/

 

Thursday, April 18, 2019

notes on IPA

I was rereading Fluent Forever by Gabriel Wyner. IPA can be used to make pronunciation flashcards. His website has changed a lot so I can't find the original material easily. So now I'm looking at some IPA youtube videos.

ubc visible speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfoRdKuPF9I

  • z- voiced (vibration), s - voiceless
  • bilabial, both lips, p, b, m
  • labiodental, upper teeth & lower lip, f, v
  • interental, tongue between upper & lower teeth, θ, ð
  • alveolar, tongue at or near the ridge behind the upper front teeth, t, d, s
  • palatal, front hard palate or roof of the mouth, ʃ, ʒ, j
  • velar, at velum or soft palate, k, g
  • glottal, at glottis or the space between the vocal folds, ʔ, h
  • stop, air released, p, t, k, b d, g
  • fricative, tongue approaches but doesn't make contact with place of articulation; bottleneck of airflow, v, z, θ, ʃ
  • affricative, sequence of stop plus fricative in rapid succesion, tʃ, dʒ, 
  • nasal, velum is lowered allowing air to pass through nasal cavity, m, n, ŋ,
  • liquid, air can pass on one or both sides of the tongue and tongue can itself move a lot to shape the sound, l, ɹ,
  • glide, little restriction of airflow, free airflow, sometimes referred to as semi-vowels, w, j,
  • tap, rapid flick of the tongue to some place of articulation, in North America only have one at the alveolar ridge, butter, bʌɾɹ not bʌtɹ
  • b, voiced, bilabial, stop
  • s, voiceless, alveolar, fricative
articulatory phonetics vowels -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7jQ8FELbIo&list=RDdfoRdKuPF9I&index=2

intro to IPA- how to navigate the international phonetic alphabet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_SHfoUDj8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_UyGm7Vy8

fluent forever

  • english pronunciation & IPA- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e66ByetpDY 
  • french consonants - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83sTgHd5Iw0
  • german consonants - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzrLZi6fipA
  • european spanish - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOJG7Th2IpA
  • russian - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zltpo15toe0
  • IPA anki deck - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIT5t074CBc
  • english 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8l9IVjmteM
  • english 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJR1VPzayu0
  • english pronunciation & IPA deck - https://blog.fluent-forever.com/video-the-english-ipa-anki-deck/

nicole - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUFHwmKfDTc

  • voiced/voiceless; 
  • place of articulation- bilabial, labial dental, intadentals, uvelar, palatal, allavelas, glotals, 
  • manner of articulation - how airflow is constricted

English like a native - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzsQkjX4fD8
44 phonemes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBuA589kfMg
evan ashworth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA9--WJSPws
confident speech - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Eeiy9g_Vk

Virtual linquistics campus - vowels - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa5bG_wrK7s

language rush- articulatory phonotics 101- vocal tract -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAh9TgApqAU

stuart Jay raj - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebRQXfsTFI

diego geux- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVzb4zIXPcg

easy languages- polish pronunciation- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s-vMd_pBks

norwegian vowels - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTUYnoPhETE






Wednesday, April 17, 2019

Norwegian Minimal Pair list references and notes

Trying to get a minimal pair list together so can hear the difference between sounds

some references
https://www.reddit.com/r/norsk/comments/2ppkgn/minimal_pairs_in_norwegian/

Her har du 3 eksempler av lignende ord med uttalelse og øvelser: (You have here 3 examples of similar words with pronunciation and excercises) from zajczex
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkzWokTd_Q
Bønner/bønder is one of the cases where pitch actually alters the meaning. Edit: on second thought this is actually more common than I thought, and is often used to distinguish verbs from nouns, as in the last four of these cases: E.g. Hjemme/hjemmet gjenta/jenta løpe/løpet rote/rotet kaste/kastet tegne/tegnet
The kj - sound is important, I once heard a story of a foreigner who complemented a woman on her beautiful skjede. E.g: Skjære/kjære skikk/kikk skjede/kjede sjelen/kjelen
Those are the ones that first come to mind. by lamrar

Word pairs like bønder/bønner are discerned by pitch, and not stress. by steyyan

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I've been using it for a few days and it does seem to help a bit. I hope with a bit more practice I'll be able to hear the vowel differences more consistently. Thought others struggling with some phonetics might find it useful. from uncr3ative
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_phonology
Very complex 
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IPA/Norwegian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Norwegian
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norwegian in IPA
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Norwegian_Bokm%C3%A5l_terms_with_IPA_pronunciation
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rhino spike word pairs
Bønner, bønner; Bønder, bønder; Hjemme, hjemme; Hjemmet, hjemmet
Gjenta, gjenta; Jenta, jenta; Løpe, løpe; Løpet, løpet
Rote, rote; Rotet, rotet; Kaste, kaste; Kastet, kastet
Tegne, tegne; Tegnet, tegnet; Skjære, skjære; Kjære, kjære
Skikk, skikk; Kikk, kikk; Skjede, skjede; Kjede, kjede
Sjelen, sjelen; Kjelen, kjelen; Landet, landet; Lande, lande
Vannet, vannet; Vanne, vanne; å vanne, å vanne
Låven, Låven; Loven, loven

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Long & short vowels
Silje Moss - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsF5IyVg-Ms
Norwegian teacher - karin -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqy8zrT_OFg

silent letters, d e g h t v
norwegian teacher - karin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVcAD0aQWiM

a vs ae
norwegian teacher- karin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS1P1s1B-fI

aa vs oe
silje moss - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcMBvSX8RiU

ae
thenorwegianschool - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFEZwNKe-_8

ae vs aa
caroline lie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed-xB0a_zAo

oe
TheNorwegianSchool - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7i4wL2QdAU
Learn how to pronounce the Norwegian letter Ø. https://www.skapago.eu/nils/norwegian...
 
ae, oe, aa
norwegian teacher - karin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23CjariO0A

Y, I, U
norwegian teacher karin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHnXihStww0

Y  (o to y, i to y)
silje moss - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzUqB20fwj4

O, U
Silje Moss - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqM3MmIZeDQ
norwegian teacher - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxL67KOKXK0

hat hatt, tak takk, hel hell, slit slitt, koste koste/koste, floke flokke, rus russ, flyte flytte
til, at, om hvis, for (short vowel) (for with o with circumflex = animal food, long vowel?)
hjem, hjemmet (s), home, the home
glem, glemme (v), forget, to forget
tam, tamme (a)
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retroflex - the R sound, rs, rt, rl, rd, rn
norwegian teacher - karin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRegrgHDLq4

skj, kj, rs
norwegian teacher- karin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqbt4mM3avQ

norwegian vowels
torill hoeiby - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysAAq8zUD98

how to pronounce norwegian
courses norwegian - basic norwegian - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDjPre4h9bk

norwegian tones
learn norwegian naturally - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkzWokTd_Q
boender, bonner; landet, lande; vannet, vanne; aa vanne;
loven, laaven; endene, endene; en and - anda - ender - endene
http://www.learnnorwegiannaturally.com/transcripts/norwegian-tonespitch-accents/





Tuesday, April 16, 2019

Norwegian Alphabet

I really like this youtube video by Simple Norwegian #1 - The Alphabet & Pronunciation
my notes: to try to figure out minimal pair list

Alfabet, Fra, frakke
banan
camping, celle, christoffer, chili
doer, broed, sand
eple, se, engelsk, er, ide
(e with accent but optional to write)
fabrikk
gutt, geit, heldig, igjen
hode, hjelm, hva
idrett, sier, ikke
jente
konge, kino, kjole
laks
mage
norge
olje, norsk
penger
quiz (not seen in norwegian)
radio
sofa, skilt, skjold, dusj, person
te, huset, det
uke, bruke, huske, ungdom, bukse, ukjent
vann
wienerpoelse, wc
alex (not seen in norwegian)
syk vs sik (sik not a norwegian word)
y purse lips, i widen mouth
yrke, lyst vs lyst
Zambia (not used in norwegian)
ae, baer, traer
oe, oel, kjoere, troett
aa, staa, aate, og, aa

 Learn Norwegian Naturally
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2SS4mp3zk
 learnnorwegian-online
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACdPq7_WqMQ
 queenofnorway - learn norwegian in 69 seconds a day
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3H5fLIsVGI
 Norint - norwegian international language school
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-5m2kDl_88
theNorwenglishChannel - Thomas Heavens - a brief history language + greetings
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzIrwpfHzQ
amerinorge
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3UOkTRfqr0
Some songs

norske barnesanger
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfxAypBu8cY
  Disco fingers, dyrealfabetet
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrk1K_oF-3g
alligator, bjoern, chinchilla, dinosaur, elefant, fisk, gris, hest, isbjoern, jerv, katt, loeve, maur, neshorn, okse, piggsvin, quetzal, rotte, sjimpanse, tiger, ulv, veps, wachtelhund, xiaosaurus, yakokse, zebra, aerfugle, oesters, aal

norgally12 - traditional norwegian song
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui6qmO0Z3ys
hlb barnas verden
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduqcgjvHNQ
little treehouse norske - barnesanger paa norsk (very high pitch)
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8LlUc25hCM
nattsvart22 (pop?)
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E00gOWW8cPE











Monday, April 15, 2019

Creative Endeavors

There are so many things both creative and analytical that interest me. I'm thinking of creative goals now. We'll not mention the things we have to learn and do for the business of living.

Learning art is very high. Mainly just sketching right now because I had a lot of big work related projects to finish and now we are slowly moving from our residence of 35 years to a house that we had to empty and are currently fixing up to make habitable before we move in. Then we'll have to get our current residence ready to sell.

I'm proud that I was able to finish a 5x7 sketchbook for the Portrait Society Gallery. I really enjoyed sketching and learned a lot about pencils and markers.They haven't scheduled when the show is yet.
  • http://katsmishmash.blogspot.com/2019/03/5x7-sketchbook-markers-colored-pencils_28.html
  • http://katsmishmash.blogspot.com/2019/03/5x7-sketchbook-markers-colored-pencils.html
  • http://katsmishmash.blogspot.com/2019/03/5x7-sketches-colored-pencil-tombow.html
  • http://katsmishmash.blogspot.com/2019/03/5x7-psg-sketchbook-pages-224-22819.html
  • http://katsmishmash.blogspot.com/2019/02/5x7-psg-sketchbook-pages.html
Other than that, I don't have any finished paintings for Milwaukee Sketch Club show and Martini Girls Show because I haven't been painting.

I restarted a second creative endeavor with languages after listening to the language mastery podcasts while recovering from a sprained back that extends into my left hip. I was forced to do a lot of laying around in between working slowly and painfully. So I started using duolingo for Spanish, French, and Polish. I want to improve my Spanish (because everyone speaks it) along with maintaining and slowly improving French (learned to read it in high school but not pronounce and speak it) and Polish (that a lot of people speak.) I'm just using duolingo because it's super convenient.

However my main language learning focus this year is Norwegian because I'd like to visit the Scandinavian countries. So I am listening to you tube videos of the alphabet and how to pronounce Norwegian. I'm also slowly working with Memrise. I'd like to make a minimal pair list of sounds that I have trouble telling apart. Fluent Forever does not have that for Norwegian yet. So I have to do that the old fashioned way.

Future languages I'd like to learn are ESL, Slovak, Italian, German, and Chinese.

Third creative endeavor once we move is to learn how to play bass guitar so I can jam with my husband and brother-in-law. I will need to build up callouses on my fingers. I will also wear earplugs because they play way too loud for me. We plan to make the family room our music room at our new house. Of course I'd like to get back into playing fiddle, viola, and piano just for fun. I'd really like to learn how to play accordion for the in-law's family reunion.

Other than writing on this blog probably won't do much writing.